just a heads up that the english version with the changed cover is now up on jw.com.. i haven’t yet read it but if any you have the time i’m looking forward to people’s insights.. in the meantime i must find a red 🍷.
cheers,.
ozzie (of the ‘is he still here?’ class ).
ozziepost:
My guess is we will only understand the details when the updated Elder’s manual/Shepard book gets leaked in the coming months. They may not even understand the specifics themselves given they couldn’t even publish the August WT on time. All of this seems to be a weak, and not well thought-out, knee-jerk reaction to governments discovering their human rights abuses.
there is a huge problem now in all congregations as the gb stubbornly will not do the u turn on staying fully vaccinated that many hoped they would do.. all congregations around the world the cobe has to ask all ministerial servants and elders if they are fully vaccinated (meaning no more than six months since last shot).
there is a massive problem now with many many jdubs not getting their latest boosters and not wanting to stay fully vaccinated .
but more serious than that is how the gb painted themselves into a corner with these vaccine mandates.. most governments did a u turn on the vax mandates but the gb can’t get out of this one so easily .
Like most everything else the Governing Body does, this is likely motivated by concern over legal liability, especially for schools that are directly sponsored by the Organization. They don't want to be seen having any direct legal connection to local congregations so they can't and won't enforce anything at the local level. But their own schools are a different matter.
They can't get successfully sued if they pushed the official narrative and standard of care with respect to the vaccines. They do not, however, actually care about the health (physical or spiritual) of the Elders or members of local congregations unless it can impact them legally or, more precisely, financially.
isn’t it about time they released the report for the service year?
or have they stopped publishing it?
did they released selected figures at the annual meeting as they usually do, such as the memorial attendance or record number of pioneers?
i would belief so but if you can point something out, it can be discussed.. i don’t mean what jw taught in the past that they later realized was not correct and amended.
—unless you think and can show something like that is relevant.. i’ve spoken to a lot of believers from different religions.
i don’t want to bash any religion here under this topic but their beliefs are inconsistent and their reasons are sophistry and made up and grounded on circular reasoning.
"We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry-be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of salvation to a person or an organization." –Watchtower, November 1, 1990, page 26
"...identifying themselves with Jehovah’s organization is essential to their salvation." -Our Kingdom Ministry, November 1990, page 1
if i was a jw, and covid put and end to the door to door work for two years, and kingdom halls closed, it would get me to re-visit and think about the stupidity of the overlapping generation, and how they extended the deadline for armageddon to 2072.
(1992 franz death +80 more years).
if i was 20 years of age, plus another 80 = 100 years of age for the system to end.
Another aspect that may impact resuming the door-to-door work is legal liability.
The Organization has used the excuse in court cases that every JW engages in a “personal” ministry that is essentially disconnected from the any centralized directives. Of course, this is not true but they use it as cover when something bad happens between publishers (such as abuse).
It’s easier to get away with this excuse since it is difficult to trace the origin of JW activities…the preaching work has been going on for well over 100 years.
Now, however, it’s been shut down by a centralized directive from the Governing Body. Can the Governing Body now order everyone back into the field, door-to-door, and still maintain the line that all this is just a personal ministry to which the Organization has little connection and no liability?
2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .
2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.
if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .
Yes, please Petra. Thank you.
3 letters:.
1. civil unrest.
2. food distribution pause.
Yes, Please! ...and, Thank you!
petra/atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations.
what stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.”.
this appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “worldwide work of jehovah’s witnesses.”.
Petra/Atlantis recently posted and supplied a document on donations. What stood out to me, besides the usual nonsense, was the phrase, “Donations in Support of Kingdom Interests Worldwide.”
This appears to be a change in terminology from donations in support of the “Worldwide Work of Jehovah’s Witnesses.”
Perhaps that’s because there’s no actual work being done...but there has to be some underlying reason. Any thoughts?
2020-11-09 donation announcement.. .
donations in support of kingdom interests worldwide.. .
reply below and i'll swing by your pm box with a link.. .
Yes, a link please, Petra. Thank you!
new--2020-october--shepherd the flock of god--elder manual.
new--2020-october--addendum to elder manual.
2020--october-s-147-e--announcements and reminders.
Please send me the link...thank you for your excellent work!
